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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #62

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I'm going to just come our and say it - I'm a beginner and I have very little idea of what to do. There, it's out there. I've single-handed for over 30 years or so, but my new 11'3" switch rod is still a bit of mystery to me. I've managed to catch some shad on the American with it recently though, so I'm not completely useless. Here are my questions: 1) When practice casting, which tip (MOW, versileader, ??) would you typically use? The reason I ask is because it seems like I am cracking the whip a lot when I'm casting and I wonder if the tip type helps. 2) As I'm sure my technique contributes to this problem, I'm wondering also about the casting loop "falling apart" when it gets to the tip section and I am curious if a different tip type or weight is needed to help reduce this?

Thanks for any advice. If these are all technique issues, I'm fine with that and will adjust accordingly but I just thought I'd ask about these tip selections since they're completely new to me.
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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #66

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Make sure you're using an appropriate leader with a "fly imitation" (small tuft of yarn) on the tippet, if you're cracking the whip alot. You should always practice casting with this setup as if you don't you'll eventually destroy the tip section of your flyline. I would recommend a floating tip for easiest casting. Versileader versus MOW depends on the weight of the rig you're throwing. Lighter weight rigs are best with a Versileader. MOW's cast better on heavier rigs. Generally, I use a Versileader on 6 WT and less rigs. If your casting loop looks fine until it hits the tip, it could be caused by poor casting technique (you don't have enough energy in the line to turn over the tip), or it could be the loops in the tip are opening up a bit. Again, heavier tips are generally harder to cast.
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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #67

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Suggest you slow down and maintain an even stroke throughout your cast. You may be trying to accelerate your forward stroke and applying too much power. Work on being deliberate and smooth, rather than trying for distance. You'll be surprise that distance doesn't require that extra forward power stroke and will be achieved once you smooth out your cast.
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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #68

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Thanks for your advice. As with single handed casting, timing is more important than effort to yield good results, I've found. I'm sure it's also the case with two hands. When not trying to shoot line, I do find that my roll casts are a lot smoother and have lots of energy so that all makes sense. Thanks again.
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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #69

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It's important you also not over power your sweep and "blow" your anchor. Suggest you slow down and watch your anchor. Keep the anchor point about a rod length in front and towards the side.

So slow down, make a smooth sweep, good anchor placement and you should have nice quiet spey cast. Good luck..
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Novice spey casting advice needed 11 months 1 week ago #70

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Thanks again, good advice. I thought I was setting the anchor as you described but it could be pulling out of position and causing the whip cracking problem. I'll try to monitor this next time out. It is quite a thrill to see line shooting through the guides when a good cast is made!
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