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Panfish surface fly? 1 year 5 months ago #40

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I'm looking for a panfish fly that is quick and easy to tie and floats all day without floatant. Any suggestions?

Also, I've noticed that most rubber legs end up too stiff when cut short on smaller patterns. I want some wiggle. Ideas?
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Panfish surface fly? 1 year 4 months ago #59

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Your first requirement -- float all day w/o floatant - almost requires that you use cork or foam as a construction material. If you don't like these then I would suggest ram's wool treated with "Hydrophobic Fumed Silica Gel". I think you have my book - see Chap 18 on ram's wool. The Hydrophobic fumed Silica Gel Is actually a super fine white powder that will penetrate the wool and repel water. Finished flies will be lighter than cork and many foams.

For patterns - ants and beetles are a good start.

As far as rubber legs there are some very fine ones available that should work on even very small flies. Also Doug Swisher makes a series of different dubbings containing super fine "wigglys", (his term for the strands). ( He also sells packets of the super fine strands by themselves not mixed with other dubbing materials in several different packaging options.

I don't think Swisher uses rubber strands. They look more like Spandex, which as you know is sold to fly tiers as "Stretch Floss". This would be a very good substitute for rubber legs as it can be split as fine as you desire.

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Panfish surface fly? 1 year 4 months ago #61

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Is there any particular brand of foam you'd recommend? I've noticed that some brands of 2mm craft foam get waterlogged after a while.

I've noticed that while using flexi-floss, the ends would sometimes split. I'll try using those for legs.
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